2012-09-28-Conversations with Monjoronson 61

Session

Opening

Prayer: Heavenly Father, Michael, Nebadonia, our Planetary Supreme, Urantia, we ask you to be with us today, as you are with us every day, as we entertain our Avonal Son and his staff in a question and answer period that is this venue, called, “Conversations with Monjoronson.” We thank you for this opportunity and would like to tell you of our great appreciation. We have learned a great deal in this time and we hope to learn a great deal more. Thank you very much!

MMc: Monjoronson, are you there?

MONJORONSON: Good morning, yes I am.

MMc: I hope you heard us talking a little bit earlier about the questions that we have in our minds about where do we go from here? But before we start into that question, is there anything that you would like to say to us?

Service

• Why are the celestials helping us?

MONJORONSON: Yes, I do and it is an oft-repeated message from the earliest days of your awareness of the Correcting Time, and that is the answer to the question, “Why are we doing this?” One is for information, and secondly, that information is to assist you to prepare yourself to be of service to your own ascendant career by being in service to Christ Michael in the Correcting Time. Through your participation of service in this work, we all can bring this world into the days of light and life. These words are more than mere intellectual curiosities or entertainment or inspiration; they are pragmatic designs, pragmatic words urging you to take action, for without action there is no completion. We have made our decisions; we have made our plans; and we are taking actions now. And so, we are sitting on the teeter-totter of the Correcting Time, and we are waiting for you to climb on board to “play with us,” to swing up and down on the teeter-totter as we engage this dialog in real life terms of service. We are thoroughly committed to service, as we hope you will be.

Yes, for those in the morontial realm, this act of service is a process of serving their ascendant career as they learn more and more about universe administration, yet it takes the individual at the lowest levels, one-on-one with you and your celestial teachers to assist you, to raise you to a level where you can appreciate your total ascendant career, and that this earthly era is a highly important one that will set the stage for all of your morontial existence, until you enter the spiritual phase of your metamorphosis.

Decision

• It is your actions that count the most

It is one thing to learn; it is another thing to chart out the options for decision-making; and it is another to make a decision. Yet, in the criteria that God judges you, that you are held accountable, it is youractions in the material plane that count most, whether it is for service of omission or service of commission; whether it is sins of omission or sins of commission—the weight of your soul is decided upon the actions that you take. However, in the morontial realm, your weight of survival is weighed upon the actions of your mind, the decisions and actions you take in your mind, the thoughts that you have in your mind. You are not held to that higher standard of performance yet, but one day you will, and of course you will be guided and taught how to teach and train your mind how to become more and more in conformance with God’s Will, and in conformance with the universal harmonic that exists in the universe, which you define and have titled as “love.”

Intentions, decisions and actions make a difference

So, my friends, this work of healing your world will not go forward until you take action. You are even given credit for your intentions, which is quite wonderful, that takes into consideration the nature of where you live. God is so generous as to give you credit for the intentions you hold. We do not hold you to a higher standard, but we do anticipate and even have expectations that you will take action upon your decisions. And so, it is upon your decisions that the initiation of the Correcting Time, through the lessons we have been teaching you, will succeed or fail. Eventually, we know that we will succeed, but “you” make the difference between decades, centuries and millennia; it is your decision and actions to make the difference. One day, when you are in the morontial realm, you will be thoroughly apprised of the effect of your decisions and of your intentions, and your failure to have intentions to make decisions and take actions. You will be shown very clearly how your personal decision and action would have made a difference in the opening era of the days of light and life. This is measurable, it is predictable, it is a known factor to us; that is why we are here now, at this most critical time in Urantia’s history and its future.

MMc: Considering what you just said, and what you told us at the last session, the question that I have is: You would very much like to see us become active in design teams, working with you to help forward this planet into light and life, or the early stages of that.

MONJORONSON: That is correct. Continue your questions.

MMc: I’m wondering where this venue is going? Where would you like to take it from here? What topics would you like to discuss, or would you like to turn this into the pragmatic questions from the design teams, that we might ask you, here in this venue?

MONJORONSON: Yes, you anticipate by several weeks or months, what we have seen ahead, and that as teams gather together, that they will have ongoing questions about the team process. Many of those questions will be answered by our resident expert, Sondjah Melchizedek, and otherwise answered by Charles and Avila. But Sondjah is the one with the most experiential history with this process, working with mortals.

• Make a decision to form a team—or not

Let us come back earlier to the more immediate present time, and let me address our concerns for you now. And I say “you,” as in individuals, rather than the collective “you.” You, as individuals who have been reading these transcripts about social sustainability and the design team, and the design team process, now are prepared to make a decision to initiate a team, or enter into the earliest efforts of initiating a team—or not. We wish that you would not equivocate; we would wish that you would not sit on the fence. If you make a decision not to enter into it, then that is your decision and there is nothing held against you, and there is no guilt involved [that is] necessary on your part. However, if you are considering the possibilities or even the marginal possibilities of initiating a team, then please, make that decision and state that out loud in your prayer time, or as you read this, this very moment. I will pause so that you can take a moment to think about that, make a decision, and to take action. (Long pause.)

• Taking the initial steps to form a team

For those of you who have decided that you would like to do this, or you are inclined to do this, there are some very initial steps to begin. You have made the decision; you have said that you would like to and it is your intention to initiate a team, and that you would like to proceed. The most elementary way to proceed is to discuss the possibility of learning about social sustainability with your friends. Of course, if you have no friends, then it is rather a moot point. Those with friends, you are recommended to talk with your friends to see if they would be interested in discussing social sustainability and learning about that. You can approach this very gently, very slowly; it doesn’t require commitment to a team, at this point, but merely a time to invite friends to your home or to the club house at your condominium residence situation, or apartment, sub-division, or just in the parameters of your living room with friends to discuss this and to find if there is a common thread of interest in some social issue that you are concerned about. Whether it is delinquency, schools, teen pregnancies, drug use, disintegrated families, and so on. There are at least a thousand different social topics that you could discuss.

Groups

• Social bonding

The important thing is that you find a commonality among all people that you discover. This is the beginning of the social bonding process that will eventually become the hub and center of your design team. This must be developed first, before any discussion about a team is developed to any extent. Of course, when you bring people together who want to discuss these issues, you must be prepared also, that you will attract some very intelligent minds, and anyone with a modicum of intelligence will ask you, “Well, how do you see this as proceeding?” You would then discuss that you had been given some materials that would outline a design team, and that there are certain functions in it, and that these roles and functions help the team process to reach conclusions, recommendations and findings. Some people will be intrigued with that; some people, of course, will be put off by it. So, there is a sorting and sifting of individuals who eventually end up on the team, and eventually some do not, but it is your effort to begin this process.

Even if you are unsuccessful, the decisions, the actions to fulfill your intentions to assist Christ Michael are highly meaningful. You are not held responsible for the circumstances of developing a team in your social environment when those circumstances are not fortuitous to that eventuality. We do anticipate, and hope that you will try, and then if it is unsuccessful, that you will see how you can contribute in some way in your own community, perhaps in another situation. Is this clear so far? (MMc: Yes, it is.)

• Celestial expectations are less than your own

We are not expecting to train you to become highly competent team members yet, but we simply want to train you in the very beginnings of learning how to organize a team, with the eventuality after several meetings, that you would begin to accept the harness of each role, whether it is as facilitator or as an inquiring member, or other role. You oftentimes expect too much too soon of yourself and of your friends. The social process is oftentimes slow, but as long as you are methodical and regular, you will find that you will make progress. If you are unable to make progress, then that would be the opportunity to ask questions of Sondjah. He is the principle individual I would point you to in this regard; he is our “growing library,” so to speak, a living library of experience of working with design teams. You do not need to worry about overwhelming him or making a minute-by-minute appointment with him; simply call him in to assist you. If you “hear” him, fine, if you do not, he will still be there to assist you and guide you in the ways that he can.

Lastly, in this brief description of this beginning, is that this is one of the requirements that we see of the design teams, is that you meet physically, in person, and that you engage each other personally to build this social organism of the design team. There will be occasions, however, when you can continue your research apart from each other, but eventually, and before long, you must meet again in person to continue this process. It has many parameters to it when you meet in person. I know that you have friends in other states with whom you collaborate, and we recommend to you to collaborate with each other on how each of you in different states can progress in your team initiation in your own local area. This way, you have a secondary team through the Internet, advising each of you in your local social environment, how to generate progress in your local teams.

• Operational and functional design teams

The second part of this discussion is that the generation of an operational design team becomes a social organism, which we spoke of last time, in our last session. This is true: When a fully operational and functional design team, where members are self-observing, self-monitoring and self-correcting, and engage in positive thinking and are constructive in their comments and their contributions, this is the emulation of an individual who has these same capabilities, talents and expressions in their personal, social, spiritual and emotional life. So, the team environment provides you with a living, working, training environment for guiding your own emotional, social and spiritually developing evolution. We encourage you to participate in the team environment as a means of growing within the potential you have as a mortal. You are growing towards the morontial, and this is truly one of the most immediately functional areas where you can do so. Many of you have made much progress towards the morontial on your own, in your own meditative state, as you are self-observing, self-monitoring and self-correcting of your thinking and your behavior and your speech, but in the team environment you have an operational social environment where you can practice those in real time, without the “slippery fish” of your thoughts that can easily lead you astray, thinking you are doing well when you are not. Do you understand?

MMc: Yes, I do. It is a matter of realizing some difficulty for the individual in putting the intent into action, but the rewards are great also.

• The rewards will be huge!

MONJORONSON: The rewards will be huge! And remember, that in the beginning, there is the team initiator, the organizer, and this individual has that role, at that time. Who the team chooses to become the facilitator is another matter altogether. Being the organizer and initiator of the team does not necessarily mean that that person will become the facilitator. Many times, for organizers and originators of a team, those skills are good for that purpose, but work against them as a competent, capable, facilitator.

• The spiritual quality of the team

MMc: There seems to be one area that we may have not touched upon in discussing the teams once they become involved, and that is there is a spiritual quality of the teams, and you would like to see that spiritual quality at its highest level. [Correct?]

MONJORONSON: Yes, you will find that teams that have a spiritual consultant will be more likely to stay on target and maintain their focus in the immediate perspective and a very long-term perspective. Those teams which do not have a spiritual consultant, but have a mortal consultant to fill that role will have less restraint from engaging in topics and subjects and social issues, which are not productive. We will work with mortal teams who are neutral, who have a social interest to improve the welfare of your societies, even those who do not use a spiritual consultant, as they can be highly productive and highly influential and provide a positive outcome as well.

We are here to advise you, much as parents who have had a tremendous amount of experience and do not want to see their children go through the same difficulties that they did, so they voluntarily share their wisdom to their children, even before the children ask. This will help you.

• The intentions of “Healing a Broken World”

MMc: In the upcoming book, “Healing a Broken World,” the original intent for that book was to be a demonstration of how to work a design team, was there any intention on your part for us to explain who you are, or go into any mention of the Correcting Time, in that book?

MONJORONSON: There is a dual purpose, intention, for this book. One is to provide instructions of how to develop design teams, and how to build sustainable social processes, organizations and institutions, which would then lend themselves to sustainable social policies and laws. The second intention was to introduce to the broad global public that the Spiritual Management of this planet is deeply invested and involved, particularly in this current era of earth’s history—and I use the word “earth” as it begins to tell you of our orientation that spirit is involved in particular at this time—as there are social developments and environmental elements which are evolving to such an extent and so rapidly that they overwhelm and overcome the capacity and capability of human individuals and human organizations, whether those organizations are in the community and your nations, or in the congress of nations. These problems are so huge they are beyond the capacity and capability of human mortals to resolve. This world represents an investment by the spiritual realm that it is worthy of being provided help with its growth.

• The requirement of co-creative participation

It requires the co-creative participation of earth’s mortals, the inhabitants, to assist us to do this, as there is “no free lunch.” To heal this world it will require the co-creative participation of mortals so that they have a commitment, an investment and an ideal that they wish to fulfill. The third aspect of the second intention is that we not create such a diversion in the thinking of readers who want to be of service co-creatively with us, that they are diverted from participating effectively in this work by focusing on my being, my arrival, upon “The Urantia Book,” the Teaching Mission or the Magisterial Mission. These can be mentioned in passing, very lightly, without deep discussion or explanation for several reasons: One, is that we do not want people to become diverted in their intention, but to focus their efforts to assist us in this co-creative program; and secondly, to be available to participate with us. We wish to generate a curiosity among those who have a positive inclination to do so.

There of course will be some, who are inclined to do the research, so that they can “poke holes” in what is occurring. You will always find in any crowd, at any parade, that there are individuals who throw tomatoes and rocks at the participants in the parade—it is simply their nature—but of the main audience, the bystanders wish that they could be a part of the parade as well, and they will take interest in it. So, our main focus is upon those individuals who will do the research diligently, capably, competently and put this into their “library of awareness,” so that they can be more capable and competent in assisting us. Am I clear so far with you?

MMc: Yes, you are. Yes.

• The main thrust is social regeneration through spiritual influence

MONJORONSON: It is important that the main thrust be of social regeneration that is provided to mortals on this world through a spiritual influence. We are not looking to get converts. The emphasis is not upon conversion or even convincing people that this is a spiritually developmental program. Those people who are spiritually inclined will understand this already; those who do not can participate quite effectively without any spiritual reference. In the sum total of all this, you must be quite amazed that we are so egalitarian, and that we are not trying to sell our program and get more people on the bandwagon. That is not the function of our work; that is the function of Thought Adjusters, guardian angels and celestial teachers.

We are trying to create a global social environment that is conducive to the work of Thought Adjusters, guardian angels and celestial teachers, where families can come into existence that are sustainable and have sustainable family practices that bring sustainable individuals into existence. This is first and foremost the most important part of my program. The eventual fulfillment of the spiritual nature of our work will become self-evident before many years or decades pass. Always it seems that mortals are always seeking the end point, getting to the end first, before going through the process of achieving that.

• Celestial intent is global

Those of you who are invested in the programs I mentioned, those three programs, would like to see the whole world created into “Urantia Book” readers, who are thoroughly involved in channeling. That’s very wonderful, but it is not a reality and it is not one that we anticipate or expect to come into existence any time soon. If we can convince the broad global public of the rationality and logic and reasoning of our involvement and this program of social sustainability as useful to everyone, believers and non-believers, we will have achieved a major portion of our initial part of this mission. Doing that effectively helps the decades and centuries ahead, where people more easily begin to see the positive effect of the constructive work that we have invested ourselves in, and that other mortals have invested in as being the right way to go; then you will have a tremendous conversion when people see pragmatically the results of involvement and investment in these programs.

Other questions?

Archives

• A book of celestial teachings concerning social sustainability

Roxie: Yes, I have one along this line, Monjoronson. At one time in the past, you requested that we put up a web site that included all of your advice and counsel to our planet. I was not able to generate enough interest in getting help on web design, in order to accomplish that. Recently, Byron suggested that I take the information that you and Sondjah have given about the co-creative design teams, that I cull that information out of the transcripts and combine them into a single volume that could be a companion to the other books that we will be producing on working together in teams. Is this something that you agree with, and do you have any specific points that you would like me to include in this?

MONJORONSON: Yes, definitely! Yes, you are quite correct. Whether it is a web site or whether it is a book, the requirements for either one is that the information, the data, the relevant materials be excised from the broad archives of all the transcripts in the last 25 years, so that they are focused and concentrated and brought together into one compendium. The web site is an eventuality, as the book is an eventuality.

The first step is to bring all of these together, and it is our wish that these be brought together first. Then, how to organize them and develop them and present them is another piece of work, and how to eventually publish them is another. We do see these works, these transcripts, this collection that pertains to design teams, the Correcting Time and so on, be available through the Internet, and hopefully and eventually that they will be converted into several languages as well. But the most immediate first chore to do, which you have a tremendous acquaintance-ship with, is to gather all of those sessions together into one folder on your computer, for example, and then search for those which are also related from other teachers and other transmitters.

Other questions?

Roxie: Not at this time, however, perhaps later.

MONJORONSON: Is there any part of my suggestions or guidelines to you where you seek further information or clarity? (Roxie: Not that I can think of at the moment.)

You probably will have great ease of discerning these lessons from the time that you began as an active transcriptionist for the work that has come through this one. We suggest that you advertise to your Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission community, anyone who has earlier references that are prior to this time. You would, of course, want to begin your first search from the earliest suggestions of my existence and continue forward from that time. You, however, may find references from Christ Michael and others who make reference to the Correcting Time and to the development of various missions involved in the Correcting Time, prior to my mention of my arrival.

Roxie: That’s very good; thank you for that piece of information. That will be helpful.

MMc: I have a question: TMarchives and the Daynal Institute are two different archives that have taken the Teaching Mission sessions and tried to work with them and archive them. Are you talking about something different here than just archiving them? Are we trying to produce… are you asking Roxie to produce a book that has some other purpose than just archiving the material?

MONJORONSON: Yes, definitely. We are suggesting that all of these transcripts be brought together and organized, and that they be made into a library. An archive is simply a retrieval and storage of all relevant information, chronologically. An operational library has an index; it has a means of search; it has a means by which its internal data can be organized and searched by readers and those who access the site. Her function first is to bring all this material together, and she will have completed the major portion of what is needed in the future. The second chore will be then for someone to develop a web site, or even before a web site, a method of searching the content of that library, so that it can be useful. Why gather together several chests of tools for a mechanic to use, if you have never given him the key to open the chest? So, there must be keys made available for individuals to research its contents; to not provide those tools, makes our work much more difficult for individuals to co-creatively work with us. It is important that this not be an archive, but that it be an actual, working library. Does this help?

Roxie: Yes, it helps me a lot. Thank you.

MONJORONSON: You have already done a great deal of work through your topical headings that you use for each transcript. These will be a source of indexing of the contents. It will assist in a much more rapid process search. Of course, any good book would have a glossary and have an index, a bibliography and related works and various authors or teachers, angels, celestial beings, et cetera, as well as the channels who brought them through. Think of this as a working database and you will be far ahead of the game that way, as you bring these documents together.

Roxie: You’ve been a great help to me today, Monjoronson. I appreciate it very much.

MONJORONSON: You are welcome. We wish you to make a separate annotation, appendix to the book, by taking each listing of topics in each transcript and putting them in an appendix of topics covered, and each one having the heading, the date of each major element of the discussion. Do you understand?

Roxie: Yes, I do. Thank you.

• Seeking clarification on an old recommendation

MMc: Back in May, you gave us a list of the books that you’d like to see published and some idea of the dates that you would like to see them come out. A lot has changed in our publishing group since May. I wonder if you would refresh that list for me, please? Or refresh my mind about that list?

MONJORONSON: Certainly. And first of all, I would like to congratulate you on seeking clarification of an old recommendation that we made to you. There is a lesson here for all of you: Oftentimes, when you take our recommendations or guidelines to you, you chisel them in granite and you think that they live forever. However, you know as well, that the circumstances that are around you in your world are constantly in flux. Therefore, it is useful and helpful to you and to us when you check again, just as you are doing this moment, on what was given you to do in the past. Is this part clear so far? (MMc: Oh yes, it is.) So it helps make those old guides and those recommendations for activities relevant to the moment. As you know, we only work in the moment, the ‘now,’ and have tremendous forgetfulness about the past and its requirements. We work with fresh requirements every “day” so that we always remain relevant to the future. The past is the past; the present is only as good as it can act and bring about the future.

• Books planned for publication

To answer your question: The list is one that is developmental; it is not necessarily chronological. Yes, we would like to see these books published “now,” as this now moment gives us the most power and opportunity to affect the future. However, knowing that you are unable to bring these into existence instantaneously, we ask that this book now, the “Healing a Broken World,” be published promptly, and that there be work initiated on “Designing a Sustainable Society and Democracy”—I say “work on that” as there will be another book, which will come along, which will probably, we anticipate, will be published before “Designing Sustainable Societies and Democracies,” and that will be the “Morality for a Sustainable Civilization.” This will be published, perhaps, very closely to that of “Designing Sustainable Societies and Democracies.” These three books will give a tremendously uniform approach to anyone who reads all three of them, in how to engage the socially sustainable principles, processes and design team work in the society in very pragmatic terms. Anyone who reads all three of these books will have a tremendous insight into the look or the actual design of future societies on your world.

Catastrophism

• Concerning the announcement of disintegration of your societies

One thing that is not emphasized in any of them, [and] that is not given much attention, are the cataclysms and the disintegration of your societies. This will be minor and major in some degree throughout the entire world, yet it will speak of the necessity of reorganizing your societies in more sustainable terms, pragmatically. You want to engage principles and practices and policies and laws that actually do support the sustainability, the ongoing operation of society. Inherent flaws—you call them “design flaws” in your manufacturing, or you call them “designed obsolescence” and other terms—and we are striving to remove all of those elements, which bring about the natural destruction and disintegration of societies, by giving you a design process that brings about ongoing pragmatic functional sustainability of a society, a short-term of 50 years, a mid-term of 250 years, and a long-term of 500 years to several thousand.

One of the lessons inherent in these three books, is that if these attributes of sustainability are not embedded and invested in your social organizations, then you are actually designing the obsolescence and eventual decline and disintegration of your societies. Once this awareness hits in, and large sections of the populace are seeing the disintegration of their societies and cultures and communities around them, [they] will also see an immediate need for removing obsolescent, antiquarian, self-destructive social policies, procedures and laws in their communities and societies.

MMc: Should we be looking at saying more about the decline of our institutions and of society in our books, or is that going to be such a vivid situation that nobody is going to miss it?

MONJORONSON: The elements that need to be emphasized at this time are those obvious elements in the first part of earth’s dilemma, where those elements are made obvious to the readers. You will find that with publication of this first book that there will be a marketing and development effort that will also include workshops and speaking presentations, open seminar discussions and so on with the author and the principals of the book, such that those questions and concerns will become open and evident in those discussions. You can anticipate that this will begin in small meetings, but later televised and replicated and even included in instructional and teaching environments, whose principal functions include that, one of which is the BBC and the other is what is called T.E.D., and similar presentations. These are obvious eventualities that we see developing and will come to the public’s awareness much more directly and vividly, as you say.

What is next? A pause to see what the audience does

MMc: I’m going to go back to my original question and ask you, where do you want to go from here? What do you want to talk about the next time we get together?

MONJORONSON: We would like to see what the audience does. We have, if you recall our conversations with you over the last 10, 11 or 12 years, you will see that we have made a “push,” and then we have withdrawn and waited and paused, and then we come forward again with another push, and so we have come forward repeatedly, much as the lapping waves of the ocean, where the surf withdraws and gathers its strength and comes forward with another wave and much clamor and noise and movement of sand and water, and then withdraws again. We are at this point now, going to withdraw, but be open to your discussions and to your actions. And when we say “you,” and “your,” we mean the larger “you” and the larger “your,” as you take ownership and make a listing of the options that you have and choose the best options, and then make a decision on one option and then take action upon it. Rest assured that after a pause, with no one taking any notice, that we will again come forward. However, it may be with a different topic and different subject, or under a different environmental situation. But you can rest assured that we will have to do with developing your world into a world that is entering light and life, and it will also involve the co-creative participation with you.

MMc: Well, I’ll make my email address available to our readers, and hope that they contact us with questions during this interim. momccray12348@gmail.com

MONJORONSON: Yes. You personally may wish to begin by contacting others in the medical profession around the nation, who might be interested in initiating their own sustainability design team in their own locale, and using your collective intelligence from various individuals in various states to assist in that process. This will help several of you eliminate the need to reinvent the wheel, so to speak, for developing topics for your local teams. Your next step would be to then solicit those who may be interested in developing a local team, or at least to meet and discuss this socially, and to see if there is any bonding that may exist.

Closing

MMc: I don’t have any more questions for today. We thank you very much, Monjoronson. Would you like to say some closing words for us?

• We are not being abandoned by the celestials

MONJORONSON: Yes. In no case are we abandoning you. It is the case of the parent where they show and tell and teach, and then wait for the child to move forward and enact or re-enact as best they can, the directions and instructions of the parent or the teacher and the trainer. And so, we are always present, we are not leaving you. We will be here; we will be furtively engaging in any mind, any point of light that exists to show itself and inquire as to our availability and our assistance. It is a matter of training you to work with us co-creatively. We are finding that to be a very slow process.

Thank you, and we wish you a good day, and please know that we are present with you and that I personally volunteer Sondjah to work with you as you develop your teams; that is his field of expertise, although Charles and myself are always readily available as is Nebadonia’s team of highly capable helpers in the hierarchy of light. Thank you and good day.