2012-10-19-Whispers Session 4

Session

• Moderator: Paul Conklin
• Trenton, NJ

Opening

Reflective Liaison: No revelation short of the attainment of the Universal Father can ever be complete. All other celestial ministrations are no more than partial, transient, and practically adapted to local conditions in time and space. While such admissions as this may possibly detract from the immediate force and authority of all revelations, the time has arrived on Urantia when it is advisable to make such frank statements, even at the risk of weakening the future influence and authority of this, the most recent of the revelations of truth to the mortal races of Urantia. from The URANTIA Book Paper 92 Section 4 line 5

Opening Prayer, Paul: Our Dear Eternal Father, Eternal Son, Infinite Spirit, the Holy Trinity, we’re very grateful, very thankful we can come here together and have spirit again come forth and instruct us while we are here on Urantia. We’re also grateful to our divine parents Nebadonia, to Michael, for their continuing help in bringing us into their hearts and their love, and as they train us through their spirit. Again we look forward to what we are about to learn, and that we put aside any preconceived notions or expectations and just let spirit teach us, and let spirit lead us where it may. So, we are very grateful and thankful again and we thank all of you.

Dialogue

Paul: I had a topic I would like to discuss because I feel that it’s very appropriate and I know that this is the end goal for all of the Creator Sons. And that is to have light and life appear in their domains, in their local universes. For us of course we live here in the local universe of Nebadon, in Christ Michael’s universe. Just what the Eternal Father wants we want and that is not only to see light and life here, but to see light and life throughout all the superuniverses. So when I look at the life of Jesus Christ born as Joshua Ben Joseph, I see he went from flesh to soul, as Jesus Christ, and then he went to spirit when he remembered that he was a Creator Son. So, in this one human life he went from flesh to soul to spirit. So Is it possible then that in this one human life that we can go from flesh to soul to spirit?

Michael: It does my heart well my son when I hear such questions as what you just posed because of the restraints on the spiritual system that many have been brought up to believe certain ideologies and religious doctrines on your sphere. How my heart jumps and leaps at the subtle realization that there is no book that can tell you something that you know within. Intrinsically, within your body, within your mind, within your soul, within your spirit, when you know truly the Paradise Father and what He is capable of and what He’ll give you. So, to answer your question, when I was incarnated in this world as Jesus, when I became Jesus as Joshua Ben Joseph, the human part of who I am, there was a pathway that was paved; there was a remembrance that was extricated and brought into the awareness of the human populace. When you heard me speak, ‘I am the truth and the way and the life,’ what specifically that is being geared for is everyone, not just who I am. That within you there is the same remembrance and the same potentials that was in who I was when I was incarnated on your world two thousand years ago.

What that means is for you specifically growing up that there is no limitation; no matter if you are born in a manger; no matter if the King sends his henchman out to murder all the firstborns; no matter if you are born in the projects on your world that would limit you from becoming the Christ; that would limit you from becoming, in concept, a Creator Son. Now what I mean by that is that you are the only begotten Son that could ever be conceived in the Paradise Father’s mind because that’s who you have always been to the Paradise Father. You have never been anything other than that. So the fall from the remembrance, so to speak, is the forgetful human state that was brought up to believe that there is no way that I could ever be connected to the Source, to God, to Paradise. When you break away from that you come through to the understanding that, wait a minute, I am the only begotten Son of God. I am the Christ of God. And when you can remember that, that is the returning of the Christ within you. When you remember that, that means that you have remembered your divine inheritance. You remember that the angels are there, not to assist you, but to serve you. You remember that when you awaken into this consciousness that you are not withdrawn and cut-off and isolated, but you are connected and that every thought, action, word and deed that you bring forth affects the whole universe, not just the whole world.

Paul: Wow! That’s very beautiful Father. I appreciate that. I know that we put limits on ourselves but in fact we are limitless. So, that’s a perfect reminder for all of us.

Michael: There are many that will become uncomfortable maybe when they read this because of the aspect of really claiming something that is so unaccepted on your sphere presently. How could a Father, a loving, all loving, abundant, all knowing, all giving, Paradise Father, not want to give his son or daughter everything that He has? How could God not want to extend his hands down to you and give you the universe; give you all of creation? How could it not be? Now when you think of that fact, how could you not want to give to your son or daughter everything that you have, if you had it in your power to give to make them whole and complete; and everything that they have will become their sons’ and their sons will give it to their sons? That essentially is light and life. The remembrance that there is no death. That there is only life and that life will continue down through light in the extenuating factors; of the lineage of your own heritage.

Paul: Michael, can you expound on that a little bit, that you and the Eternal Father wants to give us everything that you are and perhaps include a few things specifically that that will entail?

Michael: Everything. Being a Creator of the universe means everything that I have. Why wouldn’t I want to give my sons and daughters the ability to create their own universes? We have made man in our image already; to create life on a planet that wasn’t marred by rebellion of course on your sphere. It was supposed to be done in a way that you were able to extend your life and create life with another partner in love. Now I as a Creator Father along with Nebadonia want to give all of our children the same ability that we have to create universes. Now when we talk about eternal principles we are talking about the Supreme attributes of God. I mean eternal, infinite potentials.

Now the remembrance here for you and the remembrance for all of those that this question was posed for means I am worthy to be called Michael’s son. I am worthy to get all that I am given. I am worthy because I am abundance and peace and grace and everything that I am, which is Michael, extends down to you and that can be all yours to give. When you look at the concepts such as was placed in the Urantia book as a Creator Son there’s a limitation there. I assure you Paul and for all that read this that there are no limits on God; there are no limitations that can be put forth in a concept or in a book or in anything else that can put God in a box. He will break out from that box and He’ll show you just how limitless He is. Why wouldn’t we want to give our children everything that we have? Why wouldn’t we want to allow them to create their own universes? Now if you have eternal potentials within you and you have the rest of a limitless time frame; think about all you could do and learn in that short period of time and it will go on and on from there. That’s not the end either. There’s bigger and greater things from that. And when I say bigger and greater things, what I mean is your mind cannot conceive nor has your ear ever have heard the things I have in store for those who love me. This is one facet, but it is not even the tip of the iceberg for what I have in store for my children.

Paul: That is really beautiful Michael. Thank you so much. As a follow up question to that I have often thought about this, that just as our Paradise Father has a will for each of us, I would like to know, in this realm of Nebadon, our local universe home, what is your will for us?

Michael: Well there’s only one will that I have and that is love. And when I say that I mean real love, not love that has been taught on a sphere such as yours that you’ve come from. Love is an infinite potential of expression that does so without ever asking anything in return. I want you to receive it and extend it out to everyone that you meet. That is my will. Take everything that I have, everything that I am. Take ownership of it and allow it to come in and become a part of you and give it away to other children that know not me. Now when you take these things upon yourself you are not taking on a heavy burden. My yoke is easy and there is no burden. When you take this upon yourself you realize that there is only peace, there is only abundance, there is only an infinite expression of my love that comes through you. Such a world that you come from, how many would benefit from knowing that everything that I am, everything that I have could be theirs? That they can say that I am Michael’s son; that I am Michael’s daughter and know that they can converse with me openly. And whatever they need, whatever they ask for will be given, if it’s something that I can give.

Paul: Thank you again Michael. Those are such beautiful reminders of the limitlessness that we are. If we on this planet could just open up to who we are there would be no limits. I understand and I thank you for that wonderful answer.

In addition to that I wanted to speak about the personalized Adjuster of Jesus Christ. I have come to know that person as Sananda. I have heard that Sananda is the presence of God in all the realm of Nebadon. That he is the chief Adjuster now of this beautiful local universe of Nebadon. Now is Sananda the focal point, the key that leads to light and life for Urantia, the local systems, the local universe that we live in to be immersed in light and life?

Sananda: Such a beautiful question. Such a beautiful, interesting question that you pose here and I am Sananda and I am here to answer your question. Specifically, when you look at the mind of a Creator Son think about the mind of a Creator Son and the spirit that dwells within that mind. Now that’s a paradox probably to a human being when you think of the mind of a Creator Son and the spirit that indwells the mind of that Creator Son. That is who I am. I am the presence of God and the will of the Creator Son and the Holy Spirit is the enactor. I am the presence of God here. I am the spirit that indwells and permeates every aspect of this home that I call Nebadon. I am the personalized presence of the universal Father on Paradise. You are speaking to him now. I am that I am.

Paul: Thank you Sananda. That is quite amazing. I would also like to ask, since you are that personalized presence of the Father here in Nebadon, how do you work with our Planetary Supreme Urantia to effect those changes that will lead to light and life, first of all for our planet?

Sananda: Well when there is a remembrance within any creation of the Creator Son that remembers that it does indeed have a piece of who I am in them, a piece of the I am in them then there is a linkage or a shall I say a circuit that is brought forth from the presence of who I am. The descending Sons of God, the descending filtrated presences of the ministering spirits of time and space comes down to that presence of the human being; the creation. The Supreme enters into the thinking here when you realize that everything that the creation and the Creator do in partnership is eternal because God is now involved. Every experience that you have, everything that you formulate in your mind, every thought is eternalized. It’s either eternalized within the realm of light and life and it’s going to be eternalized in your progression of truth, beauty and goodness; or if it is not in line with the will of God it is eternalized within the realm of the Supreme. The Supreme encompasses any experience that has been gained by a human being anywhere in this universe or even others that does not coincide with the will of God. Now the paradox for you here is, what is the will of God? The will of God is love, and the extension of love is truth, beauty, goodness, peace, joy and all of the fruits of the Holy Spirit. So anything that is not that, not light and life, means that it is still eternal, but it is going to be eternalized within this aspect of the remembrance of the Supreme. And the Supreme can utilize all of those experiences to minister better to those in future universes of time and space.

Paul: Thank you Sananda. My additional question to go along those lines is, I understand also that there are local System Supremes just as we have individual planetary Supremes. I am just wondering what role do they play and how do you interact with the System Supremes as well to enact light and life in our local systems?

Sananda: So many inherent limitless possibilities that are possible when you are acting in liaison with God. The question that you have formulated is immersed heavily in concepts and we are now talking about the human being, being an aspect of the emerging Supreme, the collective human being planet, being aspects of the emerging Supreme, then the constellation, and then so on and so forth as it echoes out. So within that aspect of who you are, specifically, as an emerging part of the Supreme, let’s focus on that and reformulate your question.

Paul: Ok. I believe I understand what you’re getting at. So everything here is tied within me as an individual as I aspire to light and life, just as Joshua Ben Joseph went from flesh to soul to spirit; is that how I am integrating?

Sananda: Now that you have formulated the question I can answer it. Every decision that you make has an infinite number of possibilities. How do you know what the best one is? How do you know, for a human being, if you are making the right choices? Do you think that God is limited in this one lifetime? Do you think that spirit is limited in any way whatsoever? When you’re speaking of dimensions of existence you are speaking of things that haven’t even entered the human mind of thinking. So if tomorrow you make a decision, there could be an infinite amount of decisions potentially in that one act. Where do they go, all of the woulda’s coulda’s, shoulda’s, so to speak? So the Supreme holds all of the infinite potentials of woulda, coulda, shoulda, in you Paul. The aspect of that question that you formulate means that if you are a part of God, that if you have God in you, then what are you?

Paul: I am God.

Sananda: In potential, absolutely. So if you are potentially that which I am then what about every action, word and deed that you bring forth? (slight pause) Then if you ponder and meditate on this question you can start to understand the potential role of the Supreme. When we speak of infinity we speak of things that have not entered the mind of human beings.

Paul: Yes, I definitely understand what you are getting at, but it is obviously something deep for me. I am going to have to ponder and take it within to my own presence within me to get the answer that I’m looking for.

I was also wondering if looking on a large scale; it is our desire not only to have light and life here, but throughout every local universe, throughout all the seven superuniverses. I have heard it said that when we discover God The Supreme we are in reality discovering ourselves Even though it may take a long time from our perspective it is like uncovering layer upon layer until we arrive at that point. Is God The Supreme, in effect, is that us?

Sananda: That question is interesting and I see how your mind has formulated it, but we have to look at first what God is; where He dwells; what the infinite potential is within that inherent propensity of the presence of that which I am and that where I am derived from. If that is who you are when you look at the word Paradise deities, deities, (deities pronounced in a drawn out fashion) how can there be more than one?

Paul: That is a very deep question Sananda. (Pause) So if I could follow that up, perhaps where spirit is leading me to; I have also heard the phrase of ‘absolute oneness,’ and I’ve often wondered what that meant. Is that what you are getting at, absolute oneness?

Sananda: There is a level of realization that can be reached when the human being is completely and totally in alignment with God, with spirit. As the Urantia book states, where when you pass through the tribunals of those who look at you they cannot differentiate who you are from who God is. When you get to this realization, to this state of consciousness and to this mind, you have reached a level of realization that means that you are no longer ever separate from anything, anywhere. And that anything that is known is known by you. Any question that you can formulate is already answered because there is no question that cannot be answered because you are that which I am. So, this realization is heavily, heavily, immersed in concepts right now. There are no concepts that can be brought forth to adequately explain what I am trying to explain to you. It is a level of realization within you that cannot be adequately defined by human language. It has to be experienced by the human ascender.

Paul: Thank you very much Sananda. I appreciate that. Again I know it is something very deep and that as humans we are immersed in concepts. And I understand that it is something that we just need to experience personally to come into that knowingness.

I was wondering if there are any final comments that you would like to make Sananda or anyone else here? I would be appreciative.

Closing

Michael: I would love to close out this discussion as your Creator Father. Just telling you that your human experience is so important. Every single action, word and deed in your life is so important, to live life to the fullest. To enjoy life. It was created to be enjoyed. Not to be immersed in anything other than my will for you; that is love. To explain to you how much I love you would be futile because only my love that I have for you can be felt. My will for you is to give it away to my children that know not who I am. So they can know that their Creator is not separate from them. And that I, as their Creator, would give everything that I have to all of my children if they would just accept it and drop their preconceived notions and drop what they think they know and embrace what I am. Thank you Paul for your service and I bid you all a good night and I leave you in my peace.

Paul: Thank you Michael and Sananda for all those beautiful comments. I love you both and everyone that’s been here with us on this call.