Talk:2011-07-29-ABC Summaries, A-F and Index

Conflict Notification

WARNING: Readers should be apprised of conflicting assessments of the ABC Summaries, occurring specifically in the documents Conversations with Monjoronson numbers 65, 66, and 67.--rdavis 19:32, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

On 8/3/2011 8:20 PM, Robert Davis wrote: Hello Ron-

I have tagged the recent ABC Summaries, A-F and Index that can be found here. While working my way through the document, I noticed some minor errors, but one that I warranted clarification is the section title:

Revelation Continues in the Manner Proscribed by the Ancients of Days to Urantia

My question is are you sure the word "proscribe" is what is called for here instead of "prescribed"? The meaning of proscribe is:

• forbid, esp. by law : strikes remained proscribed in the armed forces.
• denounce or condemn : certain practices which the Catholic Church proscribed, such as polygyny.
• historical outlaw (someone).

When reading the section, I don't sense that the Ancients of Days is condemning the manner of revelation. What are your thoughts on this? Gratefully,

Rob On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Aronolac <aronolac@comcast.net> wrote:

Good point. I originally received the mention of the Ancients of Days in a document handed over to me a few days before combining all the material into publication. At the time I looked at the word too but let it stand for the following reason: The word "Prescribed" is right if they mean to allow the revelation to come to us in the particular manner we received it. However, if the word proscribe is right, they mean they exercised revelatory censorship in some way by giving it to us as is because any more was not acceptable at this time. I have seen evidence that is exactly what they do when they impart a fact.

Here is how the Urantia Book uses the form of the word when dealing with revelation:

101:4.1 Because your world is generally ignorant of origins, even of physical origins, it has appeared to be wise from time to time to provide instruction in cosmology. And always has this made trouble for the future. The laws of revelation hamper us greatly by their proscription of the impartation of unearned or premature knowledge. Any cosmology presented as a part of revealed religion is destined to be outgrown in a very short time. Accordingly, future students of such a revelation are tempted to discard any element of genuine religious truth it may contain because they discover errors on the face of the associated cosmologies therein presented.

I decided to let proscribe stand being aware of this particular quote.

Ron

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at an unknown time in PM, Rob replied:

Hello Ron-

Thank you for the clarification! I understand your thinking and will include this comment in the talk section of the 'article', but I do think proscribe in the context from the Urantia text is more vividly clear than in the framework of the Summary. However, with your clarification, I am sure all will understand.

Gratefully,

Rob