Talk:2022-10-31-NET PMG 43

Among the many objections to Daniel Raphael's work are:

• 1. He cites academic authority using a bogus Ph.D.
• 2. His work parrots Neo Conservative US foreign policy. NEC 7NEC 8
• 3. He cites the Rothschild family as a model of social sustainability. NEC 9
• 4. He has spiritual beings citing the amorality of their protocols.NEC 20
• 5. He cites the virtue of commercial AI to guide moral decisions.NET 53
• 6. In recent years, he has referred to himself in capital letters as "This One".
• 7. One of the members of this group is assigned "to invent a new religion". NET 96
• 8. He has Machiventa stating in March 2020 the Covid virus "is a natural occurrence". NET 86

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2022-10-31, New Era Transitions Planetary Manager’s Group #43, Machiventa

Planetary Manager’s Group #43 – (Find this and previous PMG’s at: https://bigmacspeaks.life Group = NET-PMG)

Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager

Topics:

Best practices

A universal constitution based on the seven universal values

Removing separation

Working at the local level

Autonomous eco-communities

Sequences and priorities

Celestial help in removing morally bankrupt mortals

Human community removal of morally bankrupt mortals

Live-or-die

Why are we drawn to the recalcitrant miscreant?

Creating enclaves

The darkest hour before the light of dawn

TR: Daniel Raphael, PhD

Invocation: JT

2022-10(October)-31

Best practices

Machiventa: Good morning. This is Machiventa Melchizedek, your planetary manager. And welcome to a new day, a new time of this planet in its throes of entering into or striving to enter into a real, authentic civilization. As I mentioned last time, in the beginning, we’ll have a question-and-answer session today and another one in the next meeting in two weeks. If you have questions now, please present them.

JT: I have a question I think along these lines. We had a little brainstorming session Saturday, and this came out of that for me. We’ve talked about identifying best practices, and I’m thinking; what criteria do we use to decide if something is a best practice or not? We’re used to measuring results and then seeing if those results correlate with what we think indicates a good practice, but what criteria can we use to determine whether a practice has resulted in a good result?

MM: Certainly. This is Machiventa. As we have stated before, please go to the manuscript entitled Family Learning Centers for Sustainable Families and go to pages 15 through 24. Those pages will tell you what the evidence of best practices are. When you begin examining your life, what do you do well? What do you excel at? Are you honest? Are you trustworthy? Are you competent? Do you have a joy in life? You see, what you’re looking for is evidence. Those pages in that manuscript tell you the criteria for estimating best practices. They are exactly the reasons why you want to interview or talk to yourself about whether you have any of those qualities. And then ask yourself, how did you learn those qualities? Are you loyal or not? Of course, we’re looking for best practices. Therefore, we estimate that you, with the aid of a cultural anthropologist, will find that in interviewing many adults, young adults, children in their teens, and even lower [age] know certain truths about their life, who they are, and how they’ve been influenced by their parents.

We do not want to interview children who are recalcitrant, children who are rebellious, children who are untrustworthy, children who lack confidence in themselves, and distrust or mistrust adults. We’re looking for the epitome, the best results of child rearing. When you see a child who has self-confidence, what were the practices that their parents used to assist that child to develop self-confidence? Now that is the process, and when you receive an answer to your question, that would be a best practice or a generalization of a best practice.

It is a slow process. Most social scientific inquiries deal with things that do not exist and oftentimes, particularly concerning child rearing and what happens, are: What are the reasons a person ends up in prison? What are the reasons a person ends up a predator or an abuser? We are not looking for the reasons that they became that way. We are looking for the reasons and the influences that brought the child around to become competent, trustworthy, caring, with empathy and compassion; a child who would be a candidate for the most liked individual in their class or as an adult. It isn’t the individual who has the biggest car, the most money, or so on, but it’s the person who is good in relationships. How did they get that way? What were the influences that brought that potential within that child to the surface? And the other aspect is: what did the individual do in their life to enhance their capabilities? If a child is excellent at math, how did they become that way? Did they have a natural proclivity for math, were they given direction and guidance by an adult, or maybe they perhaps had just a curiosity and interest in it?

And so it goes for all the areas of influence in a person’s life. What we are looking for in these pages are the influences that bring about the best ethical behavior between individuals. The morality of it all is not of major concern here as ethical people will be moral as well. So, when we look for evidence of ethical behavior in the adult, the young adult, or the oldster—the elderly—then you will find evidence that you can follow in conversation with them to discover the best practices. And for some people you will find that they have been raised impeccably and are now some of the happiest individuals though they might live a meager life. I’m open for further questions concerning this if you have any. Thank you.

JT: Okay. I’ve got a series of three questions from G., our friend in Russia. He actually sent me these questions before the last meeting, but they didn’t get to Jeff in time.

A universal constitution based on the seven universal values

   asks:Machiventa, my question is about the development of laws based on the seven common human values. Every nation has its own constitution that guarantees the rights of citizens, but this constitution is not something stable for many centuries, and it changes very often for many reasons. I understand that the constitution, based on the seven universal values, could become practically eternal, unchangeable, the same for all peoples, and recognized and accepted in all countries. I would like to understand how to practically move to developing rules of behavior and laws based on the seven values, so that this constitution would be obvious to all. What would be the trigger for these new laws to be passed?

MM: Well, my dear G., that is a very excellent question. And it is one of the strategic questions that we of Christ Michael’s Correcting Time teams must put together for the future. How to get through the beginning and the middle bit to get to the end bit (what you want to do) is the difficult part. It is not done overnight, it is not done in one step, and it is not done in short order—meaning in a year or two. The “how” requires tremendous patience. The “what to do” is the thinking that you are using to follow this line of thinking and reasoning. Yes, there are constants. You could call these seven values constants as they can be used in the writing of any vision, intention, philosophy, or mission statement. And for us, we began with the first steps that humans can duplicate on their own, and that is to begin teaching individuals who are parents, were parents, or who want to be parents the fundamentals of raising a child to have all of these positive aspects in their personality. This is how we began to educate, socialize, and enculturate each new generation. And this is what you will do with your own children in your own societies. Yes, you are correct. You could begin, now, writing particularly an intention. The vision statement is just that—it’s a vision of what you want in the future, but the intention is the purpose statement. What are the reasons you are doing this? What are the outcomes you want to achieve? And so, the outcomes that we want to achieve for Urantia and Urantian civilization is one of ongoing social stability and peace, where there is coordination between all organizations for jointly achieving the end result.

Removing separation

We are striving to remove separation. And when you work on these projects of writing—even writing the programs for a children’s training program—you’re looking for a cohesiveness—what things bring people together, what brings nations together. And you’re quite right, when you have those universal elements plus the ethics and morality of decision making to assist in making correct decisions throughout time, you will end up with nations that look alike. They may be Brazilian, or they may be Canadian, but they think alike, they have values alike, and they think of and appreciate others in like terms. It is not that sameness is desirable; it is where there is a uniformity of interpersonal and international relationships based on the same principles of all people. You have perhaps begun to read or have already read the last paper that This One and Avahlah have written and that is The Human Holism. Humans are one; they are integrated, they are whole, and it is only through the ego that separation occurs. It is not that we want to denigrate or diminish ego, but we want to help self-identity as a positive influence for people to work together rather than apart for selfish reasons.

I know that this answer I’ve given you is multifaceted and doesn’t directly address your concerns. What the overriding emphasis is, is for a society to begin developing unifying roles and policies that work together. You see, if organizations of every type from a sole proprietorship to a mega corporation, from the United Nations to a Community Watch Program were to have the same goals, your civilization could achieve global peace easily within 30 years. However, it is because of the separation that ego causes that these organizations do not do so. Therefore, we are trying to provide you with a template that can be scrolled upon the societies of a nation so that it takes form in the internal policies and decision making of those organizations.

Working at the local level

Now that is all airy, nebulous, and so much rhetoric. What we prefer to talk about and for you to begin showing evidence [of] is writing those things into real terms. If you have a community council or a local community design team these would be the things you would want to work in at the local level: how can we build a more helpful, socially supportive educational system? How can we overcome the disparities that occur between people who live in large houses and people who have no houses but still live in the same community? What you are asking is almost insurmountable at this present time. There are simply too many people on your planet to reach a situation of stasis. Quite the opposite is occurring on your planet where you have ongoing chaos; where there is so much conflict going on at every level, in every community, between nations, and so on. When you have leaders who are pugnacious, who are manipulative, who are domineering, and whose ego needs to be salved so often by the domination of others, it will be a long time before there is peace and stability on your planet. Thank you for your question and keep them coming. Thank you.

Autonomous eco-communities

JT: The second question is probably a continuation of the first one. I think autonomous eco-communities are a good social platform for using the seven values, and the first thing people that gathered to create such an eco-community would ask is: “What should we do in practice? What role should we follow in order to comply with the ethics and morality of the seven values?” This question, of course, is naïve, but it is easier for people to start the practical implementation of any theory with established rules like road signs. Currently, these rules and signs are completely different, and it is required to start with something that will be accepted immediately to move on to new ones. Could you share your thoughts Machiventa, as this is a rather large, unexplored labyrinth where it is unclear how one can navigate?

MM: Yes, thank you for your question. It’s an excellent question. I would first recommend that you begin to develop a make-believe community—one that is pragmatically ideal, ideally pragmatic so that people live in a community where they abide by a certain ethic. Rules will always change. Regulations will always change. Group mores will always change, yet there are some of the most standard aspects of living together that are part of your own DNA, plus the ethics and the priorities of decision making. By starting with a make-believe community, you can begin developing make-believe living situations and interaction situations.

For instance, you may want to start out with a community of 350 people, 500 people, or 200 families or something that is embraceable—something you can get your mind around and your arms around so to speak. And probably one of your ideals is that you would have some thoughts about reproduction. What is the maximum number of people that this community can prosper, thrive, and benefit. How few can exist with the same achievements? You are seeking a balance, a moderation, a means by which many people can be appeased. Now, you know, as we know, and you in Europe and other places, know what it’s like to have your homeland invaded by immigrants (whether they’re invited or not invited) and what that does to your nation. Nations can absorb a certain percentage of additional people when the internal workings of their nation—their own small national civilization—are working fine, but too many people take this out of balance. What is the balance between welfare benefits and productivity, for example?

On the local level, you would want to determine how many people can live in how many square feet of living space? If you’re dealing with quality of life (which should be one of your primary criteria) this would have a very real influence upon the household, the size of the home, and so on. And how close do they live together? What does an eco-community look like? Is there open space? Is there a lack of fences? Are there play areas for a certain number of families with children? Is there a commons hall? Is there a commons field or open space? Are there places where people can walk, have viewpoints and private chats, yet have social gatherings in peace? You want to achieve the quality of life for whatever situation you determine. The larger the social entity, the harder it is going to be to fulfill those qualitative criteria. And so, these are all considerations. You’d want to come to a common knowledge on the criteria of the community that you are going to build.

Now, if you’ve done some research, you’ve already seen some very excellent eco-villages and communities that are sometimes upwards to 50,000 people who live in the same general area. There is space to do all of the things that families do, neighbors do, and communities do. Yet you have the connectivity and the abundance of resources to serve that number of people. So, the parameters of what you are trying to achieve are, first of all, the criteria you want to establish for this ideal situation. You would particularly want to begin with family planning. And by that we mean the interior, the intra-social environment of the family. And you’d want to influence that by a program or programs that are provided by the local Family Learning Center, public education, and private education, so that all of these educational institutions or organizations are on the same page—working for the same end. So, if a child moves from point A to point L in that community, which may be a kilometer or more, they will be attending a different school but yet have the same ends given to them.

So, your question is multiple, and what you are really doing is wonderful, something that we deeply appreciate and encourage you to continue. Yes, the make-believe perspective is one that will help you get started, and by bumping into problems concerning what you’re doing, you will then have questions about how to proceed. You are most welcome to confer with one of our Melchizedeks who is involved with community decisions. That would be an open question to the Melchizedek order on this planet. Thank you.

Sequences and priorities

JT: His third question is about the sequence and priorities and is continuation of the second question. When creating a new local community that is going to act autonomously, the question arises of choosing a sequence in solving social priorities. What should be decided first, what should be decided second, and so on. Probably it is like building a house where the sequence of actions and the order of laying stones are important. It is about practical actions, social organization, and the creation of a social mechanism so that the local community works as a single organism. Machiventa, could you give your comment?

MM: This is Machiventa. Most gladly. Your metaphor of building a home is excellent. Of course, the foundation for all societies is the family. And the family is prospered by the local environment, which means employment and support for the homemaker, whether male or female, and that they have resources near to them that they can call upon to help them resolve problems, for examples that they might use, see, or participate in to emulate in their own family situation. This is the best place that you can start. It is truly a learning environment for designing the community that you have in mind so that you will have your priorities in order. The decisions will come as they come, but if you begin at the beginning, you will get to the end last. Now you may say that’s pretty funny, Machiventa, but the truth is that many people get the order out of sequence so that they strive to get the end results before they can be produced, and they ask questions and ask for priorities before it is timely to do so. So, you want to begin with the beginning, and that is raising children. And that is why the questions concerning the best practices of child rearing and parenting are of a practical nature that lead to a settled nation and a settled community of nations. Thank you.

JT: That’s wonderful. We have one person in question queue and that would be John.

Celestial help in removing morally bankrupt mortals

John: Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Machiventa. Thank you so much for being present with us today and taking the time to connect. I have a question that arises from our text and I’m going to paraphrase it. But the text says basically what divine mercy cannot rehabilitate, divine justice will annihilate. When I think of this in the context of the adjudication of the Lucifer rebellion and the apprehension and removal of these rebel personalities, I’m just wondering if there is a plan or what is the plan to perhaps remove rebellious individuals who reject your and Christ Michael’s efforts at rehabilitation, and if there is a plan or a petition that, you know, a planetary manager might send to Salvington to request the adjudication of individuals on Urantia who have become essentially what some of the transcripts describe as non-human. Is that part of the plan of the Correcting Time? Is that something that you would care to speak to?

MM: I will paraphrase a phrase I have given to one of your brothers in our meetings: John, John, John, you’re asking questions that are not relevant to your own spiritual growth or to that of your community, etc. However, these in the main are decisions that your local communities, larger communities, states, regions, nations, and so on must address on their own. Whether to remove—liquidate—an individual who is a perpetual predator is a decision that the constituency will have to make—the citizens will have to make. It is one of those ultimate, personal responsibilities of being a citizen to assist in developing the long-term goal of a stable society for their children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and so on. I will set aside the rest of your questions, John. Thank you for your attention to these textual questions. Here’s something you would probably want to raise within your own Urantia Book reading group. Thank you.

Human community removal of morally bankrupt mortals

John: Thank you, Machiventa. I guess that the scope of the question was really about personalities on this world that seem to represent a blockage to progress that collectively we find very hard to deal with. And I’m thinking of perhaps a personality like Vladimir Putin, although I’m not presuming to judge his spiritual status, but for people that have that kind of power I just wonder how does a common community of humanity deal with such individuals and how do we neutralize them or remove them?

MM: This is Machiventa. Now, that’s a better angle to take. Again, this is a mortal, material planet problem to resolve, and you really are dealing with the existential crisis of a decimal planet that has been through the quarantine, the rebellion, and so on. This situation does not exist on nine tenths of the other planets in the universe, particularly in Nebadon. Even those other decimal planets such as Urantia do not meet such tragedies as the question that you are dealing with. This is one of the reasons for having a decimal planet—they are experimental.

It is perhaps, from a mortal’s perspective, unkind that all of you have been thrown into this soup—this primal soup of mortal immorality and unethical behavior by selfish individuals. It is much like cooking. You say, “Well, let’s make a stew. Let’s throw this in there, let’s throw that in there, and let’s see what happens. And so, if you feel like your world is in a stew, and is now being cooked down to its essentials, you have a pretty good idea of the situation you’re in. And as for dealing with these mortal miscreants, yes, it is a problem. If we own that problem, we would resolve that problem. However, we do not own that problem. It is a problem for mortals to resolve on this planet in their lifetimes. And in saying that, my heart is in deep compassion for you. I do wish to reach out to you to assist you in resolving these and similar problems. There is nothing wrong with naming these miscreants. They are examples of global, immoral behavior—civilizational behavior—that is completely errant and evil. Their wrongdoing is incredible, and the unfortunate part of it is that you have such tyrants, such miscreants, such predators within your own communities in every city in this nation and other cities as well. It is evidence of a civilization that is breaking down. To answer your question, no, there is no existent means or plans afoot to resolve these situations for you. That is why it requires incredible, strong willed, moral, and stalwart individual citizens to come together to make reasonable, rational decisions on the management and conduct of their civilization, their national societies, their cities, their communities, their neighborhoods, and within their own families.

Live-or-die

You see, you must have the backbone of live-or-die. Resolve these situations, and these miscreant personalities, with evenness, with justice, even mercy, and do not take retribution in the same manner in which they have expressed their own viciousness against your societies and individuals, but do so with care, for in doing so you are grooming the future of the societies your children will live in. This problem with your society, particularly in North America, in the United States of America is that there is no moral, ethical, reasoned, or logical thought of leaving this nation, this society to the next generations in a better condition than which they found it. There seems to be no intention, no ideals, no missions, to not right the wrongs, but create a future that is livable. Thank you.

John: Thank you, Machiventa, I appreciate that.

JT: Okay, and we’ll go to Marthe.

Why are we drawn to the recalcitrant miscreant?

Marthe: Thank you very much James and thank you very much Machiventa. I’ve really enjoyed the questions and your answers today. I struggle with the idea that we’re living in a society where we are so drawn to exactly the recalcitrant miscreant. People in our society, when you open your cell phone, there are just images of all the Jeffrey Dahmers and Lori and Chad Daybells. What is it about our society that is drawn to such darkness? And how difficult is it for all of us to move our interest away from that which doesn’t work to the examples that you’re leading us towards? How can you guide us to go against the grain of our society which has created thousands, hundreds of thousands of examples of bad behavior and daily, you know, regurgitate it. How do we break away from that dark shadow that humanity and all of us have to only look at that which leads us towards light? Thank you.

Creating enclaves

MM: Certainly, this is Machiventa. In the words of Monjoronson who answered the very same question many years ago, you begin by creating enclaves much like the Amish, the Quakers, and some communities of the Latter-Day Saints. You have an enclave of believers who live by these codes of ethics and values. This is partly an answer to the one that was asked from our friend in Russia. This is the means by which you make a future. You do not hide yourself from evil; you deal with it as it comes into your life or your social enclave, and you deal with it as you must and as you should. You literally shun that which is unproductive to your life, to your children, to your family, and to your community. You keep to yourselves, you keep to your values, you keep to this oneness. The rest will take care of themselves in the times of great crises. They will prey upon each other, they will feed upon each other, and they will destroy each other. And the remnants will be something that your enclaves will have to deal with.

For now, you teach your children the moral and ethical ways of life, how to attract good into your life, and how to respond to good. You do not let your children go to gang meetings and initiations of new gang members where violence is the criteria for acceptance. Children must be loved in the home, must be accepted in the home, and must in many ways find their own way through their own problems with the oversight, the overcare of their parents visible and waiting on the sidelines without being too hovering. I believe the common phrase now is without being “helicopter parents,” which is very wise and to be avoided.

It is: where do you put your attention? We are calling for all people who are of reason and spiritual enlightenment, who are moral people even if they are not religious or spiritual, to look to the light, to keep to the light, and to keep their children in the light so that when these children grow up they will be moral and ethical individuals who understand fair play, what is good, what is not, and what is detrimental and what leads to further detriment in their lives. There are certainly enough examples around you to show them the way not to go.

This is a partial answer. And as you can see, if you understand the human holism, that all humankind are alike who aspire to the ideals of your humanity; of oneness without separation, prosperity without greed, thriving without taking from others, and so on. This is the holism that is within each individual except for those individuals who espouse their own egoistic, desperate, predatory ends. Thank you.

Marthe: Thank you so much. Machiventa. I have one not-related question, and that is: Could you explain whether there’s a link between Christ Michael and the Archangel Michael? I guess that’s the end of the question. Thank you.

MM: That is a question better answered by Nebadonia as she has her feet in both the spheres of angelic and the sonship. But from our perspective, there is no connection. Thank you.

Marthe: Thank you.

JT: That’s all I have for today. Do you have a closing for us Machiventa?

The darkest hour before the light of dawn

MM: Yes. This is Machiventa. Some of you will recall the words of Winston Churchill. He was talking about the darkest part of the night, the darkest hour that is before the light of the dawn. And so, your world is in that era now. And we can assure you that there are rays of light that are entering your world. They are now powerful when you seek them and see them. It is a matter of knowing what is to come. You have been given an insight into what is to come, and many of you are desperately looking for evidence of what that is and a better way. The difficulty of your planet is that you have perhaps 5 billion people who are overloading your wonderful planet, and this causes great difficulty for everyone.

Do not despair. Christ Michel has made plans, and those plans are afoot to bring light into your world. The wonderful aspect of his plan is that it is co-creative, and that you my dear friends, will be working with us personally, intimately, and sometimes at a distance (if you feel that way) to assist the enlightenment of your whole world. What has occurred over the last five centuries will not be gone in 5 years, 25 years, or 50 years, but it surely will be far different 100 years from now. And many of you who are young of heart, mind, and body will see much of that occur within your own lifetimes.

Be assured that you are not left alone to drift in space as though there were no God, no light, and no center of it all, for there is great hope. And in this hope, there is opportunity for much hopeful expression through love, kindness, and generosity which is not indulgent but generosity that is honest, authentic, and comes from the heart. Look first to the quality of life that you lead, and that you want to lead, and make steps to move forward to that.

There was a thought that came to This One yesterday evening that is rather ironic. And that is that the future is always evident from the steps that lead to it. That is basically it. Thank you for being here today. We look forward to our next session in two weeks. Thank you so much. Good day.

JT: Thank you Machiventa, and thank you, Daniel.

Daniel: You’re so welcome.